Tonight, Bob Green of Frazier  Foods talked about his new book "The Cheap Way To The Top." While Bob  believes the way to valid, solid success is his way, a slow and steady  climb to the top through years of hard work, he has disdain for  'fly-by-night, overnight success stories like Ben and Jerry's." Bob  says there is something "degenerate" about buying ice cream from two  guys who look like they have diabetes... The following hour Dr. Ron  Tarner takes Stepehn Hawking to task....again....by pointing up the  hypocrisy of the man saying God didn't create the universe but still  hosting TV specials. Ron stammers away that he still can't fathom this  guy having so much popularity even as he moves himself about by pushing a  stick with his chin.